Monday, April 18, 2005
Is Hillary going to run?
The fact that I can mention simply Hillary without the Rodham or even the Clinton in my mind says that she is definitely going to run for president in 2008.
The first stepping stone for her presidential run would be to win re-election of her New York Senate seat. If and when she does that she can run in '08 without fear of having to lose her seat if she loses because she will be in the midst of her Senate service.
There are Republicans on New York who are reported to be starting at least two "Stop Hillary Now" campaigns looking to raise money from conservative voters to keep her from getting re-elected. That's some ill shiznit right there. Isn't there a better name for a campaign like that? When you call it "Stop Hillary Now" I would bet you could turn some people off from it.
Anyhow, Hillary has managed to make a lot of friends in the state of New York. She's high profile and she's managed to fight for the state's best interests (recently defending a deal for a New York based aircraft company to manufacture helicopters and such for the military, to the dismay of Connecticut, where the company's competition is). New York City dwellers, largely Democrats, would be hard pressed to find a better candidate who's willing to run. The real surprise is that she's pretty popular with upstate voters as well. She has addressed their concerns too, whatever they are, and they like her.
I think the hardest part about Hillary running for president would be that the public would be essentially unable to separate the fact that she either is or isn't the best choice for the job with the fact that she's a woman. Many people would vote for her simply because she is a woman and many would *not* vote for her solely because of her female status. Even if 80% of the populous could vote without gender bias (either positive or negative), the remaining 20% would have a huge effect on the outcome.
I'm interested to see how this whole thing pans out. I'd love to see a legitimate campaign from Hillary. She's undoubtedly one of the smartest potential candidates, whether that would translate into her being a quality candidate and, more importantly, a good president remains to be seen.
The first stepping stone for her presidential run would be to win re-election of her New York Senate seat. If and when she does that she can run in '08 without fear of having to lose her seat if she loses because she will be in the midst of her Senate service.
There are Republicans on New York who are reported to be starting at least two "Stop Hillary Now" campaigns looking to raise money from conservative voters to keep her from getting re-elected. That's some ill shiznit right there. Isn't there a better name for a campaign like that? When you call it "Stop Hillary Now" I would bet you could turn some people off from it.
Anyhow, Hillary has managed to make a lot of friends in the state of New York. She's high profile and she's managed to fight for the state's best interests (recently defending a deal for a New York based aircraft company to manufacture helicopters and such for the military, to the dismay of Connecticut, where the company's competition is). New York City dwellers, largely Democrats, would be hard pressed to find a better candidate who's willing to run. The real surprise is that she's pretty popular with upstate voters as well. She has addressed their concerns too, whatever they are, and they like her.
I think the hardest part about Hillary running for president would be that the public would be essentially unable to separate the fact that she either is or isn't the best choice for the job with the fact that she's a woman. Many people would vote for her simply because she is a woman and many would *not* vote for her solely because of her female status. Even if 80% of the populous could vote without gender bias (either positive or negative), the remaining 20% would have a huge effect on the outcome.
I'm interested to see how this whole thing pans out. I'd love to see a legitimate campaign from Hillary. She's undoubtedly one of the smartest potential candidates, whether that would translate into her being a quality candidate and, more importantly, a good president remains to be seen.
# posted by ChuckJerry : 4/18/2005 05:44:00 PM
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Can Hilary get the nomination? Yes.
Can she stand a chance in Republican states? No.
As someone who doesn't move in G.O.P. circles, you vastly underestimate the hatred that tons and tons of people on the right wing feel towards her. If you thought there was animosity towards Bill, you haven't seen shit yet.
I can think of no better Republican fundraising cause than the spectre of a Clinton '08 candidacy.
Can she stand a chance in Republican states? No.
As someone who doesn't move in G.O.P. circles, you vastly underestimate the hatred that tons and tons of people on the right wing feel towards her. If you thought there was animosity towards Bill, you haven't seen shit yet.
I can think of no better Republican fundraising cause than the spectre of a Clinton '08 candidacy.
Why is there so much "hatred" against Hillary in your opinion, Joe? In other words, what makes her worse than John Kerry or Howard Dean or Oprah Winfrey or whoever?
Well she's more liberal than them, esp. when it comes to big goverment.
Also there was a resentment that when Bill came to office, Hillary assumed she was entitled to power.
I mean, you don't see Laura Bush doing anything as ambitious or arrogant as assuming control over turning our nation's healthcare into a more-or-less socialist system.
Also there was a resentment that when Bill came to office, Hillary assumed she was entitled to power.
I mean, you don't see Laura Bush doing anything as ambitious or arrogant as assuming control over turning our nation's healthcare into a more-or-less socialist system.
What's interesting about the "Stop Hillary" campaign is that Arthur Finkelstein is behind it. He is the (must be) self hating faggot who married his partner in MA so that he could take advantage of the "rights" afforded them, yet runs campaigns for people who are completely against the rights he so badly wanted. What a douche.
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